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Venus as Eighth House Lord

By Kshitij Sharma, March 27, 2016

In Vedic Astrology, planets have their own natural significations, karkatva and natural dispositions. Thus, Sun will always denote the father, Moon the mother and so on. The planets also bring in the effect of the house they become lord of in the horoscope. The lord of 1st house will represent the physical body, health and mind. Similarly, lord of 2nd house will represent the affairs of 2nd house, i.e., early childhood, money saved etc.

The natural signification of planets is considered to be of more importance by some learned astrologers, rather than the house lordship. For any affair or activity in life, the planet owning the natural karkatva is the main leader, while the lord of the house representing the karkatva is the project manager.

The lords of the evil houses – 3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th are tainted by the malefic nature of the houses and their location in other houses and their association with other planets is considered inauspicious. They also nullify any raja-yogas that they may become part of in the horoscope.

In a horoscope, one planet or the other will have the responsibility of being the lord of 8th house. As this lord of 8th, the planet has responsibility of denoting misfortune, obstacles and delay. The position of this planet in any of the other houses of the horoscope is bad for that house.

The ownership of houses modifies the effect that the planet brings to the horoscope. The results are automatically reflected during the relevant dasha and antardasha. The ownership of difficult houses adds to the malefic nature of the already malefic planets or reduces the beneficence of benefic planets. However, in my observation, the ownership of 8th house by Venus bring about the most unexpected of results. As argued in the rest of the article, Venus’ natural significance does not agree with the nature of the 8th house and 8th sign and hence these results are obtained. I will be unable to provide exact charts as examples as the persons who have come to me for consultation have asked me to keep their information private.

Venus is 8th lord for Libra and Pisces signs. In case of Libra ascendant, Taurus falls in the 8th house and Venus becomes both the 1st and 8th house lord. For Pisces ascendant, Libra falls in the 8th house and hence Venus is the 8th lord. In case of Pisces ascendant, Venus is also the 3rd Lord and is considered malefic.

For both these signs, Venus is a malefic planet and will give unexpected results in its dasha and bhukti. This observation is counter intuitive because for Libra Venus is ascendant lord as well. It is expected to do well for the individual. However, Venus as lord of 8th gives obstacles and does not behave like a Lagna lord. The symptoms of the problems faced by the individuals were commiserate with significations of 8th house.

Why is Venus only affected that badly due to 8th house lordship? Why is the other natural benefic Jupiter not as tainted? This can be understood by closely comparing the significations of Venus, 8th house and the 8th sign Scorpio that is naturally associated with the 8th house.

Venus and its natural significations

Venus is a natural benefic. The significations of Venus are desires and sensual pleasure, luxury, beauty and  comfort. Venus indicates our aspirations towards refinement. Venus is the force in our lives that is behind the craving to look good, to decorate our house and surround ourselves with best comforts money and buy, to buy a fancy car, indulge in entertainment, etc. Venus is important for sexual attraction as it is intricately related to beauty. Venus is also indicative of pure love. Venus indicates art: painting, music, singing and associated talents. Venus also indicates income.

Venus does not indicate depth of knowledge. Venus is shallow as it is about appearances.

The domain of 8th house

Eighth house is about occult, death, disgrace and insult. It is also a house of chronic diseases. The sexual attraction associated with eighth house is not about love and companionship. Eighth house in a horoscope is about disfiguring of body due to amputation. It is also a house of constant struggles and obstacles.

Scorpio sign indications

Scorpio is the negative sign of Mars. The term most often used with Scorpio is mysterious and profound. The persons with Scorpio rashi, which means that Moon is debilitated, are introverts and are not easily trusting. This mistrust indicates skepticism and unwillingness to open up to others. They are often lonely.

Overall comparison

Venus is about joie de vivre, as compared to eighth house which is about obstacles and death. Venus indicates affection and attraction, where as eighth house in horoscope is concerned with perversion. Venus indicates the wife in a chart, whereas eighth house is the maraka sthana for spouse. Venus is shallow whereas Scorpio is profound. Venus governs our charisma and ability to make connections with as many people around us, while Scorpio is about focusing on the inward energy. These are the contradictions that occur when Venus becomes the lord of 8th house.

Results

The results of such a Venus tainted by the lordship of house 8 ceases to be a benefic. During its dasha/antardasha, the results are mainly related to house 8 and not the beneficial significations associated with Venus. Obstacles, setback are observed. Since I have *not* shared any chart as example, it becomes difficult to demonstrate this point, but I will keep a lookout on the public horoscopes that come in the comment fields and if there are any examples to quote from there.

Last but not the least, I humbly invite comments from fellow readers and astrologers to point out mistakes in the logic presented here.



36 comments

  • Comment by Ramesh on March 28, 2016 at 11:54 pm

    Born 4th June 1955 2.40 AM.Venus in ascendant Aries
    Moon in Scorpio 8th house,
    Saturn 7th hs Drishti on Lagna
    Venus mahadhsha till 2020
    Sadesati on.
    This may be interesting chart to Explain your Point
    Thanks

  • Comment by Sagar on March 31, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    DOB: 3rd Dec 2015
    Time: 14:25
    Birth place : Junagadh – Gujarat

    Is Gaj kesari yog there in above case?
    Kindly reply

  • Comment by P on April 11, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    D.O.B 29 Mar 83
    Time 20: 20 approx
    Gender: Male
    Birth place: Andheri, Mumbai
    Current City: Vapi, Gujarat

    Can you pls throw some light on subject which u have discussed above. I have Libra ascendant. Venus is lord of 1st & 8th House. Venus is situated in 7th house of Aries with Mars. Retrograde Libra Saturn occupies the first house.

    Rgds,

  • Comment by samar on April 25, 2016 at 11:08 am

    For pisces lagna, Venus in 8th house gives rise to sarala viparita raj yoga. Handsome appearance of both husband and wife( as Venus aspects the 2nd house of husband chart and is 2nd to 7th house of wife chart). Long life, death in holy place, wife/lover/woman are present with person at time of death. Cause of death is soothing to senses.Earnings through inheritance, private banking service ( wife can be a private banker), wife comes from more wealthy background. NDE (near death experience) is also possible with respect to other maraka planets aspecting Venus. Complete rebuild of career/life in a new way is experienced.

  • Comment by NarasimhaRao NV on May 6, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Now I’m m in Venus antardasa in Venus Mahadasa period . So how this period wil go, what changes,for what I should fight for, how is marital life and whether I can succeed in litigation in this period? You pls.discuss publicly.i hav no problem for academic discussion !

  • Comment by Vb on June 2, 2016 at 11:18 am

    Pl also give an article on Jupiter for libra Lagna being owner of 3rd and 6th houses and effects during Jupiter dasa

  • Comment by Puneet on June 13, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    I am pieces Lagna with exalted Venus in the 1st house conjunct with moon 26 degree and raha 0 degree. I am also running Venus Maharashtra.

  • Comment by satish on July 23, 2016 at 4:50 am

    Born 12 Apr 2016 20:00 at vaishali Bihar, Libra ascendant with venus vargottam placed in 8th house, Mars, Saturn,jupiter and rahu in 11, moon and ketu in 5th ,mercury along with vargottam sun in 6th.

  • Comment by nemish on August 3, 2016 at 7:28 am

    i have libra lagna and venus is situated in 7th house
    5/6/1982
    5:40 pm evening
    rajkot gujarat india

  • Comment by nemish on August 3, 2016 at 7:32 am

    and venus mahadasha will start from 2018

  • Comment by Anshika bansal on February 7, 2017 at 1:08 pm

    Dob 23 mar 1990
    Time 21:23 pm
    Bhopal mp
    Sir can I wear diamond emerald and neelam life time

  • Comment by Jagdeep Mathur on March 29, 2017 at 1:38 am

    My Venus is in 8th house. Currently I am struggling to survive & support my family

    My DOB – 17-01-1972
    Time – 17.45 hrs ( 5.45 pm )
    Place – Delhi

  • Comment by Anshuman Singh on April 8, 2017 at 11:09 am

    Born 24 September 1971, birthplace Allahabad Uttar Pradesh, birth time 16.25 , when I’ll get married

  • Comment by Chandrashekar on April 28, 2017 at 2:03 am

    Hi Sir,

    My D.O.B is 26/01/1984 and time of birth is 1325 hours, P.O.B is ponnur, guntur district, Andhra Pradesh. I have 3 planets in 8th house (Jupiter, Venus and Mercury) and I am Libra ascendant. I feel that the above article reflects more or less my present condition. i request you to please through my horoscope as case study and help me out.

  • Comment by Subhankar on May 31, 2017 at 3:18 am

    My bdate-20,08,1994 time6.10pm ,my venus debilitated in 8th house….so what could be result

  • Comment by Amrut on June 12, 2017 at 12:58 am

    I am 8th house native 29.04.1983 1859 MH I have mix results from 8th house Venus and Feb 17 onwards Venus aatnat dasha is started so I relocate from Ahmedabad to Mumbai

  • Comment by Harman on June 12, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    Dob 9th oct 1995
    Timings 17:45
    Place of birth is jalandhar punjab
    What my venus denotes ??

  • Comment by Ram Sharma on December 22, 2017 at 11:52 pm

    My date of birth is 12-5-1979…Time 3:00:58… Nagaur Rajasthan.. Plz.. Predict I m very confused over my Life..

  • Comment by Shankar on December 30, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    My date of birth 9may 1963 time:.03.45.00a.m.Bangalore(Karnataka). How will be my venus dasha now running. (vishaka nakshatra-tula rashi-meena lagna).

  • Comment by Vinay on January 5, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    DOB 16- Oct 1989 Time 7:45 PM place Davangere (Karnataka)
    please tell me about my marriage(married and suffering from spouse issues ) and Carrier

  • Comment by Jaya on March 16, 2018 at 8:12 am

    My lover dob 26 Feb 1975.time 8.30am.he is a divorce person.yogi told he has a life span of 50.is it true or not

  • Comment by Swapnendu Bhattacharjee on March 22, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Birth details – 27th Dec 1978. Time – 11:24 am. Place – Tura (Meghalaya)
    Pisces Lagna, Venus is in 8th house as 8th lord. Running VENUS mahadasha. 8th house is aspected by Saturn from 6th house and Ketu from 12th house. Could you please put some light on my Mahadasha. Going through huge hardship in life. Facing long diseases. Need your help.

  • Comment by Medha on April 17, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    True. Very difficult Venus mahadasha as Venus in libra in first house n rahi in 8th house.

  • Comment by Nemish on May 6, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    I have tula lagna Venus in the 7th house 5/6/1982 5:40 pm rajkot gujarat

  • Comment by Sand on June 12, 2018 at 11:25 pm

    I am 20/4/1983, 7.05pm born. You can check my horoscope for libra ascendant and Venus in 8th house.

  • Comment by Anjali on December 28, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    My sister’s chart is perfect for this article. She is pisces ascendant, although her venus is in ascendant she is still single and not getting the positive traits of venus.

  • Comment by Prachi on March 2, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    7.09.1989 time 10:10 am at lucknow…….Many astrologers were confused about my venus effects in his antardasha or dasha period. Pls give some hint on this. As i have suffer from urinary problems from 10 years.

  • Comment by Lakshya on May 21, 2019 at 7:03 am

    DOB 20th September 1986 time 5:10 pm place mangaldai assam
    Please tell me about my marriage and carrier.

  • Comment by anurag sharma on December 5, 2019 at 11:58 am

    My DOB is 13 April 1971, 1845 hrs, Delhi.

    Request you to throw some light on my future aspects both material and marital please.

    With best regards and best wishes

  • Comment by GOPAL SHARMA on April 21, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    Dear sir, Venus in eight house is aspecting the 2nd house of wealth, so the jatak should be prosperous from wealth point of view, further 2nd house is the house of speech and aspect of venus on this house should make him speak logically and effectively, also , the venus is conferred with power of “rajneeti” hence the speech power and political power should be reflected,,. Thirdly the venus placement is eighth will cause problems whenever the jatak fetches worldly pleasures hence this make him more of a social worker. Venus in rohini nakshtra gives pleasure.
    I am of the opinion that although venus in 8th house may not give huge benefits being the 8th lord but the aspects and benefic nature will not be destroyed completely. If I am not wrong Shukra also denotes bones in body so it may happen the leg bones or hip bones may be broken and destroy the normal life of the individual,,,,? is it possible.

  • Comment by Taruna on May 15, 2020 at 12:56 am

    Hello Sir ,
    I am a Pisces ascendant and I have Venus in 8th in conjunction with moon( 5th house lord) and mercury (7th house lord ) and I am going Through a very tough time during mercury-Venus dasha . Pls help

    DOB : 6 oct 86
    Time : 17.45 pm
    Place : Jabalpur

  • Comment by Tushar K. on August 27, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    I’m Libra ascendant. Venus the 8th lord & Lagnesh is placed in 6th house with sun and moon having 7th aspect of Jupiter (Jupiter and Venus are retrograde). Ketu is placed in 8th house. During Ketu mahadasha and Venus antardasha i faced obstacles in education and other matters as well. But Ketu mahadasha and Jupiter antardasha was more horrible than that of Venus. So i think above explanation is right but one has to consider other aspects and conjuntions also.
    My venus mahadasha(as per vimshottari) will start in 2021 lets see how it goes.
    (But i’m confused in deciding which dasha system to apply Ashtottari or Vimshottari.)

  • Comment by Tundeniya on August 22, 2021 at 6:31 pm

    Jupiter aspect on 8th house whare Venus and Ketu occupies for Libra ascendant Please comment on the marriage life

  • Comment by SRN on July 9, 2022 at 5:48 pm

    Libra ascendent with Retrograde Venus in libra, how would you read Venus dasa as ascendent lord and 8th house lord (Male born on 20/11/1978, 5:35am,chennai, India)

  • Comment by Kumar on May 11, 2023 at 4:48 pm

    my date of birth 11-3-1966
    7.25 am
    place hyderabad
    how venus will function during its mahadasha

  • Comment by Anu on March 13, 2024 at 12:02 pm

    Wat if both couple has lord sign venus ? But has naadi and bhakoot dosha ? Does dosha gets cancelled

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